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Is the Watchtower Society following in the footsteps of the Catholic Church?

by Esse quam videri in

many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the watchtower society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past.

the reports from wt and awake articles regarding the catholic church give credence to these members arguments.. note: comments by the society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'.

examination of the australian royal commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief.

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steve2 4 minutes ago

All your quotations are at least from 4 years ago - before the proverbial sh*t hit the fan with lawsuits against the organization.

I am surprised that they printed such quotes as late as 2011. Very little has been printed in the last 10 years and of course we know that a 'fogging the members memory' campaign has been in full swing for many years. Hence the inability to access printed literature before 2000. Who would have thought that the internet would be used as a tool to reduce a groups knowledge of the past? Every detail of history should be recorded accurately and made available to everyone. Let the 'chips fall where they may'.The Watchtower Society has taken the opposite position. We see two forces working at odds with each other. The Watchtower trying to obscure history and others, of whom this forums' members constitute a part, trying to expose and reveal history. Really amazing to watch it unfold daily.

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Is the Watchtower Society following in the footsteps of the Catholic Church?

by Esse quam videri in

many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the watchtower society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past.

the reports from wt and awake articles regarding the catholic church give credence to these members arguments.. note: comments by the society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'.

examination of the australian royal commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief.

Esse quam videri

Many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the Watchtower Society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past. The reports from WT and Awake articles regarding the Catholic Church give credence to these members arguments.

Note: Comments by the Society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'. Examination of the Australian Royal Commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief. ['Thinking person' is a term the Society used to like using a lot]

Watchtower - July 15 - 2001

'terrible damage is done when religious authorities tolerate abusive priests who persistently molest boys and girls. “Treating the children as occasions of sin,” commented one reporter in Ireland, “the church authorities merely moved on the offending priest [to another location].”
Is just transferring such a man an example of proper tolerance? Hardly! Suppose a medical body allowed an irresponsible surgeon to continue operating, transferring him from one hospital to another, even though he was killing or maiming his patients. A mistaken sense of professional loyalty might produce such “tolerance.” But what about the victims whose lives were lost or adversely affected because of negligent or even criminal practices?

Awake 2004 Nov 22

Studies on Sex Abuse by Priests

“Two long-awaited studies have found that the [U.S.] Roman Catholic Church suffered an epidemic of child sexual abuse that involved at least 4 percent of priests over 52 years and peaked with the ordination class of 1970, in which one of every 10 priests was eventually accused of abuse,” reports The New York Times. “The human toll amounted to 10,667 children allegedly victimized by 4,392 priests from 1950 to 2002, but the studies caution that even these numbers represent an undercount,” as many cases have not been reported. One study, conducted at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, disclosed that “priests were accused of abuse in more than 95 percent of dioceses and about 60 percent of religious orders.” The other study, by a Catholic national review board, pointed to a culture in Catholic seminaries that “tolerated moral laxity.”

Awake Dec8, 2005 Watching the World

Catholic Dioceses Bankrupt

'...By the end of 2004, three Catholic dioceses in the United States had filed for bankruptcy. All three were forced to take this step because of the financial costs of clergy sexual abuse scandals. A number of dioceses have talked about the possibility of having to file for bankruptcy, but the first to do so was the Archdiocese of Portland, Oregon, in July 2004. That action halted two lawsuits in which plaintiffs were seeking a total of $155 million in compensation for molestation. According to the National Catholic Reporter, “the archdiocese and its insurers already have paid more than $53 million to settle more than 130 claims by people who say they were abused by priests.” In September 2004, the diocese of Tucson, Arizona, became the second diocese to seek bankruptcy protection from multimillion dollar claims being brought against it. The diocese of Spokane, Washington, became the third, in December 2004...'

Awake Jan 8 - 2005 Watching the World

Church Doors Closing

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston, U.S.A., has announced that it will close 65 of its 357 parishes—almost one fifth of the total. Some 60 churches and 120 related buildings will be sold. According to The New York Times, this restructuring is “caused partly by declining attendance and increased financial problems that were worsened by the sexual abuse crisis among clergy members.” The newspaper quotes R. Scott Appleby, director of the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism at Notre Dame University, as saying that “the scandal has put a drain on the financial resources of the archdiocese” to such an extent that it cannot “keep parishes afloat.”

Awake March - 2011 Watching the World

The “credibility gap” caused by the Catholic Church’s “mismanagement of the clergy sex abuse crisis” has resulted in its “largest institutional crisis in centuries, possibly in church history.”—NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER, U.S.A.

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pdf's and info

by jaydee in

doing some searching for pdf's, and came across this place .

http://wiki.jw-archive.org/.

just wondering if anyone here has access to it please ?.

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Quiz - What do all of these jw.org WT Online Library references have in common?

by Esse quam videri in

watchtower online library.

sexual abuse.

after effects: g93 7/22 6-7; g93 10/8 4; g91 10/8 3-10. alleged abuser: w95 11/1 27-29. ancient times: g93 10/8 3. appreciation for awake!

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Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

Sexual Abuse

after effects: g93 7/22 6-7; g93 10/8 4; g91 10/8 3-10

alleged abuser: w95 11/1 27-29

ancient times: g93 10/8 3

appreciation for Awake! article on forgiveness: g96 2/8 30

Canada: g89 11/8 28; g86 5/22 30

Inuit children: g96 1/22 28

chart “Ways to Recover”: g91 10/8 9

contributing factors:

pornography: g87 3/22 28; g86 12/22 6-9

day-care centers: g87 12/8 6

evolution used as basis for excusing: w86 7/15 6

experiences:

call to Jehovah frees youth: g93 10/8 7

help for victims now adults: w95 11/1 25-29; g93 10/8 14; w92 12/15 11; g91 10/8 7-11

Internet dangers: g97 7/22 10-13

Ireland: g93 11/8 29

Asia: ct 166; g97 1/8 31; w96 11/1 5; g96 10/8 29; g93 9/8 29

increase: g93 11/22 28

Latin America: g97 10/22 28

Philippines: g97 4/8 11, 13; g89 5/22 29; g86 6/8 29

side effect of AIDS epidemic: g92 8/22 28

rape:

South Africa: g93 9/22 29

“repressed memories”: w95 11/1 25-29

United States: g86 8/8 30

Venezuela: g99 9/8 29

what to do if child is abused: g93 10/8 9

whether habitual molesters can be cured: g90 4/22 29

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Elders face the Lion of Self-Abuse

by Watchtower-Free in

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9 In his attempts to hinder God’s purpose, Satan shows himself to be vicious in yet another way. A famished lion feels no pity for its prey. It feels no compassion before the kill and experiences no remorse afterward. In a similar way, Satan has shown no pity for those whom he tries to devour. For example, think about how often Satan the Devil must have been lurking somewhere when the Israelites succumbed to such sins as sexual immorality and greed. When you read about the tragic consequences that befell immoral Zimri and greedy Gehazi, for instance, can you “see” the roaring lion reveling in his conquest?—Num. 25:6-8, 14, 15; 2 Ki. 5:20-27.

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I have too much crap!! How to declutter/dehoard.....

by Muddy Waters in

some areas of our home are very nice, tidy, clean.

and other rooms are just junk and clutter and clothes and papers.... omg.

and now that we are getting older, we realize that we face a time of transition -- and this is hard to cope with too, as we believed the lie that we would never get old, etc.

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This is exactly what I am experiencing now. I am determined to get rid of the crap. Started 3 months ago. Half the rooms in my home are now neat and tidy. It is such a relief to just walk into an uncluttered room. The other half of the house full of clutter. I am constantly cycling through the junk. Some I keep, some I throw out. Then the next week I cycle through it again and throw out some of the crap I kept from the previous week. It is kind of like getting over an addiction. I figure the whole affair will take about 6-8 months BUT every week is a step closer.

One thing that brings me joy is giving something to kids, friends, neighbours, workmates. See their faces light up when they get a free gift that was your junk. Maybe most of what you have is junk but I'm sure many things would make nice gifts. I gave a friends young daughter a book on' interesting things to do and make'. I asked later if she found anything interesting in the book. 'Yes, I like the part that shows me how to tie knots.' So I got her a length of nice rope. Another smile on her face.

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Reinstated and Still Shuned!

by new boy in

jw
friends

i was at a wedding the summer before i left the jws and i met an old friend.

he had been reinstated for 6 months, he was dfed for 4 years.

so it took him 3 1/2 years before they would let him back in.

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new boy '... He had commited adultery with another "brothers" wife. Who he was now married to...'

Screw around with a man's wife and then steal her. Wreck his family and then you want me to chum around with you? I don't care if you are reinstated. Stay the hell away from me.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Latest Music video advice picking a marriage mate

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5of0nxm44.

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jaydee said
Why are they wasting time on 'finding a mate' anyway...

Because they never read the book 'Children', that's why.

Brother Rutherford would be so upset. Listen, obey and be blessed. My foot.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Latest Music video advice picking a marriage mate

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5of0nxm44.

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So just before he goes to impress the garbage bag girl he shoves a broom handle into the black guys chest.

Black Bro is thinking, '...WTF...'

Girl follows chest handle pusher like a little puppy dog. Eventually she will find out what he's really like and kindly old couple will be saying, ' .. she should never have married that loser..'.

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BOE Letter: Re: Magazine Requests

by pixel in

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory .

re: magazine requests .

dear brothers: in our letter to all congregations dated october 20, 2015, regarding making wise use of printed magazines, publishers are encouraged to use good judgment to determine an individual’s interest before offering magazines.

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fastJehu
What a waste of time. Why can't the "MS" sit in the first meeting?

Boy, do you not understand 'pecking orders'. Why have the authority it you don't use it. Watchtower executives understand the process.